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post Dec 14 2005, 01:14 AM
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Heard some hoo-hah about Ruby on Rails for some time now...
If you don't know what I'm talking about check:
http://rubyonrails.org

Anyone have experience building solutions with Ruby on Rails?
How does it stack up against J2EE, .NET, PHP and other middleware solutions?
Do you know of any Rails service providers in SA?
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Heard some hoo-hah about Ruby on Rails for some time now...
If you don't know what I'm talking about check:
http://rubyonrails.org

Anyone have experience building solutions with Ruby on Rails?
How does it stack up against J2EE, .NET, PHP and other middleware solutions?
Do you know of any Rails service providers in SA?


Yip, Transnet ...

seriously, not that I know af, gap .... mmm


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post Dec 15 2005, 03:44 AM
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lol, if transnet is the only provider then I guess I'm on the wrong platform
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anyway from what I'm reading it's supposed to be the next best LAMP framework
supposedly blowing PHP out of the water.

I guess only time will tell whether it's a fad or something worth investing some r&d time in,
still would be nice if someone with experience could give some feedback
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post Dec 19 2005, 05:15 AM
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I've been watching Rails with a cautious eye for some time now. There is a really good PHP framework that "borrows" from Rails' architecture called Cake. It's pretty cool.

From my experience with the Rails community, they all appear to be Mac-using, lazy, extremely fanboy-ish, shortcut coders. I notice how they never highlight how Rails deals with the "ugly" side of programming web apps, like input santization, validation, etc. It's always this pre-practised "how to build Google in 5 milliseconds" crap that bear little resemblance to the real-world development environment.

It also appears that the Rails fanboys have absolutely nothing but contempt for PHP, and use every opportunity to bash it as a "useless language". Frankly, anyone who can't at least acknowledge PHP for being a robust, fast and practical server-side *language* is not very objective. Furthermore, the fact that they compare Rails (a "framework") with PHP (a "language") hints at their subjectivity.

Frankly, I'd wait for the Zend Framework to come out before making any choices. The boys at Zend are looking to address the PHP framework vacuum in a huge way with their framework, which includes many of the things that Rails offers, in a far more enterprise-friendly and maintainable way. They also implement the much touted "ActiveRecord" pattern used in Rails, and it comes with all sorts of other goodies.

For more on the Zend Framework. here are some links:
Official site
Chris Shiflett's views on the framework after Zend's webcast
More notes about the webcast
Even more notes about the webcast

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whos_your_daddy?: did I waste my time replying all of that?
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